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Friday, December 16, 2011

Re: [IBCP] An extra Ethernet port for your laptop?

I've got a Netgear Lan-to-USB device that I bought years ago for a laptop that didn't have a LAN port. Worked fine once the accompanying device driver was installed.

David E. Damouth wrote:
> For $14, not much more than the price of a basic USB hub, this gadget
> give you an an Ethernet port too. I'm a little puzzled about the
> details, but it sounds interesting.
>
> <http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=57Y6663&current-category-id=9B7E41BDCE704020B8E567C67D3FA082&cid=USPCMAGEDM1216>
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[IBCP] An extra Ethernet port for your laptop?

For $14, not much more than the price of a basic USB hub, this gadget
give you an an Ethernet port too. I'm a little puzzled about the
details, but it sounds interesting.

<http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=57Y6663&current-category-id=9B7E41BDCE704020B8E567C67D3FA082&cid=USPCMAGEDM1216>
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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Assuming both computers have WiFi, you can get rid of the crossover cable by setting up an ad hoc WiFi network between the two. I just ran across very detailed instructions for doing this. See: <http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/setting-up-a-temporary-ad-hoc-network/>

Once you have this running, you can get rid of the cable. At which point you can plug your printer directly into either computer and get rid of the router. Printer sharing will still work. This will work with either XP or Win7. If you have one of each, do *not* try to use Win7's Home Group - it won't communicate with an XP machine. Conventional networking will work fine as noted in the article.

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@...> wrote:
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> Well, here's an update. . . . So I can do everything I want to do. The only thing better would be if I could do this without a crossover cable (i.e., wirelessly).


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Thursday, December 15, 2011

Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Dave,

I haven't used a repeater so I'm not really sure. If your router simply acts as a repeater for the park wifi -- repeating the same network -- then I would think that traffic between your computers through that network would be insecure. If your router treats the park wifi as its WAN connection and sets up a separate LAN to connect your two computers I would think that traffic between them would be secure, but don't know that for certain. The router's NAT (DHCP addressing) provides a separate layer of security between you and the outside world, so make sure to use it even if you're only connecting one computer.

If you connect your computers over a wired ethernet connection that should be secure.

I haven't thought about it before, but I guess the same question exists relative to my home network, where my base station connects to the cable network as its WAN and creates a separate LAN for use internally.

If any of this terminology doesn't make sense, let me know.

Ralph


On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:09 PM, David wrote:

> Thanks, Ralph. What my question was aimed at was if my router is password protected and I latch on to a park's wifi signal using my router as a repeater, will that allow anyone on the park system to see my network inside the router, i.e., will they have access to my shared files as anyone on my network can (that is, of course, just the dw)?
>
> I suppose the same question applies if I am using the park wireless while allowing internet connection sharing and am tied to the DW's computer either via crossover cable or via my router network.
>
> Dave J
>
> --- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Strauch <rstrauch@...> wrote:
>>
>> Your connection is never secure when you are going through a public network. Anyone else on the same network can read it. You should always have the SSL option turned on for your email, and should not put sensitive information into any web page that is not protected by https:
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@> wrote:
>>
>>> I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?
>>
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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Thanks, Ralph. What my question was aimed at was if my router is password protected and I latch on to a park's wifi signal using my router as a repeater, will that allow anyone on the park system to see my network inside the router, i.e., will they have access to my shared files as anyone on my network can (that is, of course, just the dw)?

I suppose the same question applies if I am using the park wireless while allowing internet connection sharing and am tied to the DW's computer either via crossover cable or via my router network.

Dave J

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Strauch <rstrauch@...> wrote:
>
> Your connection is never secure when you are going through a public network. Anyone else on the same network can read it. You should always have the SSL option turned on for your email, and should not put sensitive information into any web page that is not protected by https:
>
> Ralph
>
> In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@> wrote:
>
> > I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?
>
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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

David,

This might help: http://www.ezlan.net/Distance.html

I don't think you can get the park router's MAC address without asking
directly, but I don't think you'll need it with all setups.

- Les

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David <daveyjo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well, here's an update. I was finally able to tie my two W7 laptops
> together with a crossover cable so they talk to each other. I have tried
> and untried all kinds of things but finally got it to work. Then I
> connected to the web via my Verizon Americas' Choice plan and Casio
> Cellphone, and shared my internet connection on the Verizon network
> connection. I could see computer 1 from computer 2 and vis-versa, and both
> could access the internet. Then I logged on to my extra DSL wireless modem
> that was not connected to DSL but to my printer, and was able to use my
> printer wirelessly. So I can do everything I want to do. The only thing
> better would be if I could do this without a crossover cable (i.e.,
> wirelessly).
>
> Since my router is password protected, I am presuming this network is
> secure. Anyone disagree?
>
> I checked out Cradlepoint routers and the chat line person said he didn't
> think they would work with my Casio cell phone.
>
> I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I
> have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could
> get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless
> router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get
> and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?
>
> Dave Rudisell, it is interesting that my cell phone has to operate in USB
> modem mode before VZAM can find it. But that still doesn't make it a modem,
> does it?
>
> Thanks for tolerating all the "sort of off topic" questions I have posted
> in this Internet By Cell Phone forum, and thanks for all the advice.
>
> Dave J
>
>
> --- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David E. Damouth" <damouth@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Use Internet Connection sharing (built into Windows). See
> > <
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing
> >
> >
> > For connecting another single computer, the crossover cable should
> > work. For connecting more than more than one additional Ethernet
> > device (e. g. printer and laptop), you'll also need an Ethernet Hub or
> > Switch (for your purposes, the two are identical). A 5-port switch is
> > under $30. A hub is a few bucks cheaper.
> >
> > Or if your printer has a USB port in addition to the Ethernet
> > connection, just connect it via USB to one of the laptops and use the
> > Printer Sharing feature of Windows to make it accessible to the other
> > laptop over your ad hoc network.
> >
> > Or if both laptops have WiFi or Bluetooth, you might be able to
> > configure them to talk to each other that way instead of via the
> > crossover cable, then using the crossover cable for the printer to
> > either of the laptops (and hence to the other one via printer sharing).
> >
> > On 12/10/2011 4:18 PM, David wrote:
> > > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and
> tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't
> be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my
> Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the
> new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell
> phone.
> >
> > --
> >
> > //Dave/
> >
> > www.damouth.org
> >
>
>
>


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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Your connection is never secure when you are going through a public network. Anyone else on the same network can read it. You should always have the SSL option turned on for your email, and should not put sensitive information into any web page that is not protected by https:

Ralph

In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@...> wrote:

> I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?


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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

That's a pretty technical question. Take a look here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem>

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>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:50:48 -0000, you wrote:
[snip]
>
>Dave Rudisell, it is interesting that my cell phone has to operate in USB modem mode before VZAM can find it. But that still doesn't make it a modem, does it?
>
>Thanks for tolerating all the "sort of off topic" questions I have posted in this Internet By Cell Phone forum, and thanks for all the advice.
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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

This program will show you the MAC address of any nearby routers.
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
Pete

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@...> wrote:

<snip>
I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?
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Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Well, here's an update. I was finally able to tie my two W7 laptops together with a crossover cable so they talk to each other. I have tried and untried all kinds of things but finally got it to work. Then I connected to the web via my Verizon Americas' Choice plan and Casio Cellphone, and shared my internet connection on the Verizon network connection. I could see computer 1 from computer 2 and vis-versa, and both could access the internet. Then I logged on to my extra DSL wireless modem that was not connected to DSL but to my printer, and was able to use my printer wirelessly. So I can do everything I want to do. The only thing better would be if I could do this without a crossover cable (i.e., wirelessly).

Since my router is password protected, I am presuming this network is secure. Anyone disagree?

I checked out Cradlepoint routers and the chat line person said he didn't think they would work with my Casio cell phone.

I did notice on my router that it has a "repeater" option for WIFI, but I have to enter the WIFI source MAC address to use it. Is there a way I could get it over the air? How can I get the MAC address of an RV park's wireless router so I could plug it in and use the repeater function? If I did get and use it, would my wireless router still be secure?

Dave Rudisell, it is interesting that my cell phone has to operate in USB modem mode before VZAM can find it. But that still doesn't make it a modem, does it?

Thanks for tolerating all the "sort of off topic" questions I have posted in this Internet By Cell Phone forum, and thanks for all the advice.

Dave J


--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David E. Damouth" <damouth@...> wrote:
>
> Use Internet Connection sharing (built into Windows). See
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing>
>
> For connecting another single computer, the crossover cable should
> work. For connecting more than more than one additional Ethernet
> device (e. g. printer and laptop), you'll also need an Ethernet Hub or
> Switch (for your purposes, the two are identical). A 5-port switch is
> under $30. A hub is a few bucks cheaper.
>
> Or if your printer has a USB port in addition to the Ethernet
> connection, just connect it via USB to one of the laptops and use the
> Printer Sharing feature of Windows to make it accessible to the other
> laptop over your ad hoc network.
>
> Or if both laptops have WiFi or Bluetooth, you might be able to
> configure them to talk to each other that way instead of via the
> crossover cable, then using the crossover cable for the printer to
> either of the laptops (and hence to the other one via printer sharing).
>
> On 12/10/2011 4:18 PM, David wrote:
> > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell phone.
>
> --
>
> //Dave/
>
> www.damouth.org
>


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Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

IF the router has support for your particular model of phone, it will perform the same functions as the Verizon software and dial the #777 dial itself. As to whether any given router has support for a specific phone, you would have to check the router's specs.

David wrote:
> What I don't understand is how to use my cellphone as a digital modem. It is not a modem per se. I have to use the Verizon software to dial #777 before it connects to the web. Could I connect it to the cradlepoint router via USB and manually dial #777 and get it to work? Or would it be possible to use the router and still be able to use the VZAM software to dial the phone? I don't think I can keep my Verizon Americas' Choice plan if I get a cellular modem.

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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Dave:

You are absolutely correct: Your cell phone is not a modem. It doesn't modulate
and demodulate. The term "modem" has come refer to any device that allows your
computer to connect to the Internet, the way a modem does with analog phone
lines.

You don't need to use Verizon software "to dial #777", though. You can do that
simply by using the "create a dial-up connection" wizard in Windows. The User
Name is "yourphonenumber@vzw.com". For example 2135551212@vzw.com

The password is vzw.

Cradlepoint routers offer native support for various cell phones. For example,
I can plug my old LG VX8350 phone into my Cradlepoint 350 router and it will
recognize it and use it to connect to the Internet. If you search the 3G Store
web site, you can find lists of which routers support which phones. Try this
URL: <http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2748/63/>.

If you still have the America's Choice voice plan, you MAY be able to you your
phone as a "modem" and only be charged for minutes of use, as if your connect
time were voice calls. It depends on your phone and whether Verizon has
disabled it on your account. If you can, you can either plug the phone directly
into your computer or into a Cradlepoint router (if the router supports that
particular phone). In the former case, you don't need to use VZAM. In the
latter case you can't use VZAM; the router does it for you.

In response to an earlier question, you need to disable DHCP on the router you
are using because you need the DHCP server on your Windows computer, not the one
on your router, to assign IP addresses. If both assign addresses, you will get
conflicts on your network.

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connection

>On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:06:14 -0000, you wrote:

>What I don't understand is how to use my cellphone as a digital modem. It is not a modem per se. I have to use the Verizon software to dial #777 before it connects to the web. Could I connect it to the cradlepoint router via USB and manually dial #777 and get it to work? Or would it be possible to use the router and still be able to use the VZAM software to dial the phone? I don't think I can keep my Verizon Americas' Choice plan if I get a cellular modem.
>
>As far as the other post from Robbie asking:
>
>"What in the HELLO did you guys do in your former lives ????!!! I'm fairly good at this, but you guys thro me to the ground, and THEN stomp on me !!! Robbie"
>
>I have no idea what he is talking about, except it should be clear that in my former life it wasn't as IT manager! I'm struggling with this stuff!
>
>Dave


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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

What I don't understand is how to use my cellphone as a digital modem. It is not a modem per se. I have to use the Verizon software to dial #777 before it connects to the web. Could I connect it to the cradlepoint router via USB and manually dial #777 and get it to work? Or would it be possible to use the router and still be able to use the VZAM software to dial the phone? I don't think I can keep my Verizon Americas' Choice plan if I get a cellular modem.

As far as the other post from Robbie asking:

"What in the HELLO did you guys do in your former lives ????!!! I'm fairly good at this, but you guys thro me to the ground, and THEN stomp on me !!! Robbie"

I have no idea what he is talking about, except it should be clear that in my former life it wasn't as IT manager! I'm struggling with this stuff!

Dave

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, Leslie Johnson <bithits@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Your best bet might be to use a router that's made for Cell usage, such as
> a Cradlepoint. That way you can use the cell modem connection to the router
> directly, and let it do the network address translation with your two (or
> more) computers.
>
> The setup you described would need two networks, with one device "dual
> homed", that is, connected to both networks using two interfaces. One
> interface goes to the cell connection, and one to the other computer. The
> dual-homed computer has to translate the local IP address of the second
> computer so that the cell connection "thinks" that there is one device
> attached. I don't know how to do this with Windows, though I've done it
> with Linux and BSD Unix many times. My guess is that Windows won't let you
> do it.
>
> - Les
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM, David <daveyjo@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > When we travel, if wireless access is not available, we have used
> > Verizon's Americas' Choice plan on my Casio cell phone for internet access
> > via a USB cable - on one computer at a time. I have used a red crossover
> > cable to tie the two laptops together when we have one fee based wireless
> > account/password (like $$ Tengonet), and just log on through one laptop.
> > But I have been unable to tie the two laptops together in similar fashion
> > to simultaneously access the internet through my cellphone. Worse, I was
> > unable to tie the 2 together at all with a crossover cable once one
> > computer was upgraded to Windows 7. Maybe that was just that I hadn't
> > figured out how to do it. But now we have 2 Windows 7 laptops, so that's a
> > newer challenge. Also, we now have a wireless printer as well. They all tie
> > together at home on my DSL router just fine. But how to do it when I don't
> > have a DSL line to connect to the internet?
> >
> > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and tie
> > the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't be
> > connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my Casio
> > cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the new
> > printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell phone.
> > I am not looking to upgrade my Verizon service (and lose access to the
> > Americas' Choice plan.) Can anyone offer some advice on how to do this?
> >
> > A second question is: how can I use the fax modem built into my new
> > printer to connect and dial my cellphone?
> >
> > Dave J
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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[IBCP] Re: How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

What in the HELLO did you guys do in your former lives ????!!! I'm fairly good at this, but you guys thro me to the ground, and THEN stomp on me !!! Robbie

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, Leslie Johnson <bithits@...> wrote:

> Hi Dave,

> Your best bet might be to use a router that's made for Cell usage, such as
> a Cradlepoint. That way you can use the cell modem connection to the router
> directly, and let it do the network address translation with your two (or
> more) computers.
>
> The setup you described would need two networks, with one device "dual
> homed", that is, connected to both networks using two interfaces. One
> interface goes to the cell connection, and one to the other computer. The
> dual-homed computer has to translate the local IP address of the second
> computer so that the cell connection "thinks" that there is one device
> attached. I don't know how to do this with Windows, though I've done it
> with Linux and BSD Unix many times. My guess is that Windows won't let you
> do it.

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[IBCP] Re: How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Well, I spent some last night time diddling with my laptops. I have not pursued the suggestions I got yet, other than read the link suggested. Here is how far I got:

I have an extra DGN2200 Linksys DSL router. I powered it up but did not connect it to DSL - I just ignored setting it up. Both my W7 laptops connected to the router wirelessly just fine, as did my printer. So I was able to move files between computers and print wirelessly. (I have VZ access manager on both laptops, but it was not running. Don't know if that is even relevant.) On laptop #2 - in network connections, it lists: "DGN2200(gateway)" and "internet gateway device" as the 2 available Network Infrastructure Devices. I have tried to enable "internet gateway device" on laptop 2, both with and without the cellphone connected via VZ Access Manager to the internet on computer #1, and it always fails. Computer 2 cannot see the internet although I enabled computer #1 to allow other computers on my network to connect to the internet via this computer.

Then I read in the link previously suggested that disabling DHCP on my router is what I should try next. I did that, and when I tried to enable "internet gateway device" (the only network connection now visible), it enabled and allowed both computers to access the net via the cellphone and share files. However, my printer can no longer connect to the wireless network. It says "wrong password". This setup is ALMOST what I want, although I am not sure about having a secure network now. I haven't tried hardwiring the printer to the router yet. If it would work, that would probably be an OK solution. I don't understand what disabling DHCP does. Or maybe using a crossover cable to enable internet connection sharing? But could I access the printer then?

I had to manually reset the router to get back to where I started, i.e., sharing both computers and printer on one wireless network.

Any more suggestions?

Dave J.

--- In InternetByCellPhone@yahoogroups.com, "David" <daveyjo@...> wrote:
>
> When we travel, if wireless access is not available, we have used Verizon's Americas' Choice plan on my Casio cell phone for internet access via a USB cable - on one computer at a time. I have used a red crossover cable to tie the two laptops together when we have one fee based wireless account/password (like $$ Tengonet), and just log on through one laptop. But I have been unable to tie the two laptops together in similar fashion to simultaneously access the internet through my cellphone. Worse, I was unable to tie the 2 together at all with a crossover cable once one computer was upgraded to Windows 7. Maybe that was just that I hadn't figured out how to do it. But now we have 2 Windows 7 laptops, so that's a newer challenge. Also, we now have a wireless printer as well. They all tie together at home on my DSL router just fine. But how to do it when I don't have a DSL line to connect to the internet?
>
> I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell phone. I am not looking to upgrade my Verizon service (and lose access to the Americas' Choice plan.) Can anyone offer some advice on how to do this?
>
> A second question is: how can I use the fax modem built into my new printer to connect and dial my cellphone?
>
> Dave J
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[IBCP] Re: How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am .Choice cellphone

Just to validate that Connectify-me works for me and I have the exact setup that you are trying to accomplish.

Jim Campbell

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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

The Microsoft article shows the internet connection coming in from a
broadband modem via Ethernet. But that's just an example, not a
requirement. Windows Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) can be
configured to work with a variety of connection types.

I have done this with either a tethered cellphone (USB) or a USB WiFi
adapter providing the Internet link to my laptop, and the single laptop
Ethernet port providing the ad hoc local network connection to my wife's
laptop. That was a few years ago with Windows XP, but I presume that
the ICS on Vista and Windows 7 is at least that capable too.

On 12/11/2011 5:42 PM, Leslie Johnson wrote:
> > From what your Microsoft link is saying, it looks like you need a
> dual-homed host computer. Two Ethernet connections on the host computer.
> Maybe if could be done with one Ethernet connection, and one 802.11
> wireless connection to the other computer using an Ad Hoc connection.
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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

I am repeating myself, but some may not know that Windows 7 Professional has a compatibility wizard that makes XP programs work with Windows 7. The lesser Windows 7 (Home, etc) do not have this compatibility feature.

 
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Subject: Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Hi David,

From what your Microsoft link is saying, it looks like you need a
dual-homed host computer. Two Ethernet connections on the host computer.
Maybe if could be done with one Ethernet connection, and one 802.11
wireless connection to the other computer using an Ad Hoc connection.

Contrary to my earlier post, it does look like it can be done with Windows
though.

- Les

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM, David E. Damouth <damouth@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Use Internet Connection sharing (built into Windows). See
> <
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing
> >
>
> For connecting another single computer, the crossover cable should
> work. For connecting more than more than one additional Ethernet
> device (e. g. printer and laptop), you'll also need an Ethernet Hub or
> Switch (for your purposes, the two are identical). A 5-port switch is
> under $30. A hub is a few bucks cheaper.
>
> Or if your printer has a USB port in addition to the Ethernet
> connection, just connect it via USB to one of the laptops and use the
> Printer Sharing feature of Windows to make it accessible to the other
> laptop over your ad hoc network.
>
> Or if both laptops have WiFi or Bluetooth, you might be able to
> configure them to talk to each other that way instead of via the
> crossover cable, then using the crossover cable for the printer to
> either of the laptops (and hence to the other one via printer sharing).
>
>
> On 12/10/2011 4:18 PM, David wrote:
> > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and
> tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't
> be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my
> Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the
> new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell
> phone.
>
> --
>
> //Dave/
>
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>

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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am .Choice cellphone

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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Hi David,

From what your Microsoft link is saying, it looks like you need a
dual-homed host computer. Two Ethernet connections on the host computer.
Maybe if could be done with one Ethernet connection, and one 802.11
wireless connection to the other computer using an Ad Hoc connection.

Contrary to my earlier post, it does look like it can be done with Windows
though.

- Les

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM, David E. Damouth <damouth@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Use Internet Connection sharing (built into Windows). See
> <
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing
> >
>
> For connecting another single computer, the crossover cable should
> work. For connecting more than more than one additional Ethernet
> device (e. g. printer and laptop), you'll also need an Ethernet Hub or
> Switch (for your purposes, the two are identical). A 5-port switch is
> under $30. A hub is a few bucks cheaper.
>
> Or if your printer has a USB port in addition to the Ethernet
> connection, just connect it via USB to one of the laptops and use the
> Printer Sharing feature of Windows to make it accessible to the other
> laptop over your ad hoc network.
>
> Or if both laptops have WiFi or Bluetooth, you might be able to
> configure them to talk to each other that way instead of via the
> crossover cable, then using the crossover cable for the printer to
> either of the laptops (and hence to the other one via printer sharing).
>
>
> On 12/10/2011 4:18 PM, David wrote:
> > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and
> tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't
> be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my
> Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the
> new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell
> phone.
>
> --
>
> //Dave/
>
> www.damouth.org
>
>
>


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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Hi Dave,

Your best bet might be to use a router that's made for Cell usage, such as
a Cradlepoint. That way you can use the cell modem connection to the router
directly, and let it do the network address translation with your two (or
more) computers.

The setup you described would need two networks, with one device "dual
homed", that is, connected to both networks using two interfaces. One
interface goes to the cell connection, and one to the other computer. The
dual-homed computer has to translate the local IP address of the second
computer so that the cell connection "thinks" that there is one device
attached. I don't know how to do this with Windows, though I've done it
with Linux and BSD Unix many times. My guess is that Windows won't let you
do it.

- Les

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM, David <daveyjo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> When we travel, if wireless access is not available, we have used
> Verizon's Americas' Choice plan on my Casio cell phone for internet access
> via a USB cable - on one computer at a time. I have used a red crossover
> cable to tie the two laptops together when we have one fee based wireless
> account/password (like $$ Tengonet), and just log on through one laptop.
> But I have been unable to tie the two laptops together in similar fashion
> to simultaneously access the internet through my cellphone. Worse, I was
> unable to tie the 2 together at all with a crossover cable once one
> computer was upgraded to Windows 7. Maybe that was just that I hadn't
> figured out how to do it. But now we have 2 Windows 7 laptops, so that's a
> newer challenge. Also, we now have a wireless printer as well. They all tie
> together at home on my DSL router just fine. But how to do it when I don't
> have a DSL line to connect to the internet?
>
> I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and tie
> the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't be
> connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my Casio
> cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the new
> printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell phone.
> I am not looking to upgrade my Verizon service (and lose access to the
> Americas' Choice plan.) Can anyone offer some advice on how to do this?
>
> A second question is: how can I use the fax modem built into my new
> printer to connect and dial my cellphone?
>
> Dave J
>
>
>


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Re: [IBCP] How to tie two laptops and a printer together, + Verizon Am.Choice cellphone

Depending on the router, you may be able to flash it with DD-WRT. That
allows you to use the router as a repeater for the park's internet. If you
then hard-wire the printer to the router, all computers could connect to
the router and have access to both the printer and the internet. Getting
this all to work can be quite a pain at first, but I've been using that
method for some time (and am doing it now).

I don't know of a way to use your cell phone as part of that process, but
that doesn't mean there isn't one.

Bob

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Bob Ray <bobray99@gmail.com> wrote:

> Depending on the router, you may be able to flash it with DD-WRT. That
> allows you to use the router as a repeater for the park's internet. If you
> then hard-wire the printer to the router, all computers could connect to
> the router and have access to both the printer and the internet. Getting
> this all to work can be quite a pain at first, but I've been using that
> method for some time (and am doing it now).
>
> I don't know of a way to use your cell phone as part of that process, but
> that doesn't mean there isn't one.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:32 PM, David E. Damouth <damouth@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Use Internet Connection sharing (built into Windows). See
>> <
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing
>> >
>>
>> For connecting another single computer, the crossover cable should
>> work. For connecting more than more than one additional Ethernet
>> device (e. g. printer and laptop), you'll also need an Ethernet Hub or
>> Switch (for your purposes, the two are identical). A 5-port switch is
>> under $30. A hub is a few bucks cheaper.
>>
>> Or if your printer has a USB port in addition to the Ethernet
>> connection, just connect it via USB to one of the laptops and use the
>> Printer Sharing feature of Windows to make it accessible to the other
>> laptop over your ad hoc network.
>>
>> Or if both laptops have WiFi or Bluetooth, you might be able to
>> configure them to talk to each other that way instead of via the
>> crossover cable, then using the crossover cable for the printer to
>> either of the laptops (and hence to the other one via printer sharing).
>>
>> On 12/10/2011 4:18 PM, David wrote:
>> > I suppose I could still use a router to create a network in the MH and
>> tie the 2 laptops and the printer together. However, that router wouldn't
>> be connected to the net. I can connect one laptop to the net through my
>> Casio cellphone, but I don't know how to make the other cellphone and the
>> new printer/fax access the net through the laptop connected to the cell
>> phone.
>>
>> --
>>
>> //Dave/
>>
>> www.damouth.org
>>
>>
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